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Hi all fellow Scorpio mooners,
In my studies of astrology, I came across something in a book not long ago, which have lingered in my mind. It said that the childhood of a Scorpio Moon was often very intense in some ways, and the child were often the scapegoat of the family.
I had to think about this for a while. Immediately I have to say that I never felt like a scapegoat. I was never unjustly blamed for tings. I never really felt like I had such a "horrible" childhood either, as many astrologers insists that we did... It was quite peaceful and slow, actually. Pretty dull, to tell you the truth!
But then, slowly, it came to me. Patterns from my childhood started sinking in, and the more I think of it, the more there's to it. True, I was never unjustly blamed, or yelled at for no reason. I was probably the nicest kid on the block, and never got in trouble for anything. Honest! However, I *did* grow up in a household where mom and dad did not always get along very well, and I experienced that they both used me in an attempt to win the other one over. I'm the one they sweet-talked to whenever they felt like justifying they wrong actions against the other one, and they spoiled me silly in an attempt to get me on their side.... So basically, my parents didn't *really* get along, despite their outward cool, calm and collected image (but they desided to stay married for their childres sake....), and all the while little old me picked up loads and loads of emotional toxic waste hidden in the air. Words unspoken, sly messages hidden behind the nicest words, actions ment to hurt, emotional manipulation, emotional deprivation... Such was the marriage of my two beloved parents. Whom, btw, to this day remain married and - deep down - unhappy.
The other day, I met another woman with a Scorpio Moon, and we got to talking. We ended up swapping pseudy-traumatic childhood stories, and it turns out that her experiences were pretty much exactly the same as mine! We had quite a few laughs over it (in a slightly tragic kinda way, lol!), and it got me thinking: Are we the only two with those experiences, or is there more of you out there? Are you too a family scapegoat??
In my studies of astrology, I came across something in a book not long ago, which have lingered in my mind. It said that the childhood of a Scorpio Moon was often very intense in some ways, and the child were often the scapegoat of the family.
I had to think about this for a while. Immediately I have to say that I never felt like a scapegoat. I was never unjustly blamed for tings. I never really felt like I had such a "horrible" childhood either, as many astrologers insists that we did... It was quite peaceful and slow, actually. Pretty dull, to tell you the truth!
But then, slowly, it came to me. Patterns from my childhood started sinking in, and the more I think of it, the more there's to it. True, I was never unjustly blamed, or yelled at for no reason. I was probably the nicest kid on the block, and never got in trouble for anything. Honest! However, I *did* grow up in a household where mom and dad did not always get along very well, and I experienced that they both used me in an attempt to win the other one over. I'm the one they sweet-talked to whenever they felt like justifying they wrong actions against the other one, and they spoiled me silly in an attempt to get me on their side.... So basically, my parents didn't *really* get along, despite their outward cool, calm and collected image (but they desided to stay married for their childres sake....), and all the while little old me picked up loads and loads of emotional toxic waste hidden in the air. Words unspoken, sly messages hidden behind the nicest words, actions ment to hurt, emotional manipulation, emotional deprivation... Such was the marriage of my two beloved parents. Whom, btw, to this day remain married and - deep down - unhappy.
The other day, I met another woman with a Scorpio Moon, and we got to talking. We ended up swapping pseudy-traumatic childhood stories, and it turns out that her experiences were pretty much exactly the same as mine! We had quite a few laughs over it (in a slightly tragic kinda way, lol!), and it got me thinking: Are we the only two with those experiences, or is there more of you out there? Are you too a family scapegoat??
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Re: Scorpio Moon = Family scapegoat?
Tue, September 8, 2009 - 5:12 PMOh... I thought that stuff was a normal function in the modern dysfunctional family... LOL.
Even now, I experience the things you've explained (quite well, I must say), when my parents fight over something; one of them will call me and complain about the other and seek "moral support". I wasn't really spoiled, just emotionally bruised through the experience, but seriously, I want to say, who hasn't experienced parental manipulation in current society? I didn't have a quiet, peaceful, slow life (even on the outside), but it wasn't like I was going to tell anyone of my troubles.
It didn't help that I was the first-born either; I hadn't realized until recently, but my parents depended (and continue to do so) heavily on my input and my being for their marriage, social issues they face, as well as stress relief. I became more extroverted to lighten the family's mood, I became talkative, and made a lot of emotional sacrifices (I wonder that's why I almost never cry or feel any emotions on a daily basis and blow up every once in awhile from lack of control) for the family's peace.
I wouldn't call myself a scapegoat though... maybe there's a better word...
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Tue, September 8, 2009 - 5:55 PMI was in fact a scape goat from time to time. My father, has a scorpio moon as well, so growing up his family of 11 kids (he was the oldest), he was hardly the center of attention. I grew up the complete 180 of his lifestyle. I'm an only child of two parents, marriage still intact, soon to be 25 years married. But growing up I did make a hell of an example as an escape goat over the years.
I was a good kid, but I also thought outside the box which got me into trouble from time to time. I do remember doing some crazy things growing, nothing of the illegal or anything in the escapism like stuff, just more of the mud sliding in the back of the year, accidently having a water balloon a 3 feet wide pop in the middle of the island in the kitchen, drawing on the walls, running around naked till I was two years old, and so many more.
Because my father has the EXACT same moon as me, we are identical in arguments, so I've been told. Which means that being scape goats, we kind of drive my mother up the wall half the time and make her forget about all the annoying stuff in her life half the time.
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Tue, September 8, 2009 - 10:31 PMWhen i was a kid, there was pretty bad comunication in my family. Nobody really cared to understand anyone or payed much attention to emotions. It was all about being good in school, school was pretty much all we talked about. I wasnt a scape goat in my family, but alot of my relatives felt sorry for me couse i was e xtremly quiet, almost autistic kid . So, i didnt really talk to anybody but i did get into many fights couse a lot of kids were provocing me, teasing me back then, so my answer to them was usually punch in the face
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Wed, September 9, 2009 - 2:04 AMI am a double Pisces born to Aquarius parent, the oldest of three and I was always the scapegoat. My sensitivity was blamed for every blow up and dysfunction that occured. I was always blamed for not accepting the bullshit flung at me, like it was my fault for not just laying down and taking the shit, no blame placed on the shit flingers, just me. I haven't seen or spoke to my father or siblings in five years and I see my mother once every three years. Being an emotionally sensitive child born to emotionally detached parents was no easy child hood. To this day I am really quick to accept blame I guess because of conditioning as a child. I remember one time you brother rammed my head into the wall hard enough to break the dry wall. I was still crying on the floor under the hole in the wall when my father got home, he took on look at me, swore and told me to go to my F'ing room. Another time I successfully stopped an all out brawl between my father and brother and I got kicked out of the house for it. Many more examples but it was pretty extreme in my opinion. -
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Wed, September 9, 2009 - 5:06 AMi haven't read about the scape goat thing but i definitely got blamed for everything it seemed. i think mine was a lot to do with being rebellious even though i never got into big heaps of trouble -
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Wed, September 9, 2009 - 2:34 PMI dont know if I would be considered a scapegoat, but I felt more like a scratching post for my family. In regards to my parents, They were young when they got married and were influenced by my Grand parents at the time. They were both young and immature when they had me. Naturally they realised thet they weren't very happy being married to each other and they took their frustrations out on me. But I was a weird kid anyway. I dont know what kinda vibe I gave off to people, but I was always the target for cruel hostility from my cousins and kids at school. I just couldn't fit in anywhere. So I got used to it. Things changed when I got older though. I believe that all the oppresssion in childhood just got left behind and I can appreciate things that I have alot now. I forgive my parents because they have evolved into very nice mature people. I stay away from my cousins and other shitty relatives who are now haters....I really thought that I am just special in that childhood that I had. I dont know if its a patern for fellow scorps. I find that the moon scorps have had to endure some fucked up shit.
But I am really a sag. moon.scorp sun. I come and join this tribe because I relate to it and there is no sag moon tribe. Sags like to be social they like to be part of a team. I know I did.
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Wed, September 9, 2009 - 5:38 PMThats pretty hard, Doublefish. You've been through some stuff -
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Thu, September 10, 2009 - 6:21 AMHikatu, yes all these things are probably pretty normal in the modern dysfunctional family, as you say, lol. But the moon is the receptive one in our charts, and the sign we find our Moon in, shows *what* we are receptive to. So Moon in Scorpio would more likely be receptive to such things as emotional manipulation, power games, hidden messages, toxic waste, etc – all the things described above. My brother, who has Aquarius Moon, had the same parents that I had, but he didn’t pick up the same things I did though. He was kinda the “good one” – I got to be the “psychiatrist” of the family; I got to be the one who understood and had to manouvre the underlying dynamics of our household from a pretty early age, while he got to play with his friends all day long happily oblivious to all that went on behind closed doors.
Roxy, I hear you about the bad communication. That was pretty much the deal in my family as well. Me being a Sagittarius Sun and Mercury, have irritated myself green over the lack of clear communication! It’s sooo frustrating! But nonetheless pretty much the deal between those two. And it became the norm for me too, for in order to protect both of the from hurt feelings, I kinda had to a little sneaky myself with the information I let out… It’s a side of myself I’m really trying to change. I'd like to be a lot more honest with myself and others than was I was tought to be at home. -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 11:15 AMI am still the "psychiatrist" "house-clown" of the family, it seems. When i went off to grad school, apparently my parents and my brother could "feel the absence," (evidenced by mom telling me that the son is boring). But the bizarre thing is, when I am there, yeah the family is more lively, but at the same time, the drama gets that much more intense (and even I'm not there, somehow they will bring me in, fill in all the details, ...) ... I don't want to admit it, nor am I saying that I'm the center of my family, but for some reason, things happen when I'm there. It's as if my reactions to whatever negative or positive tone in the family is the catalyst for my family's behaviors.
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 6:04 AMI was the problem child in the family. I do think I was scapegoated. -
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Tue, November 3, 2009 - 9:49 AMLately, I have been the scapegoat and my relatives are a bunch of chupacabras!
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Wed, December 2, 2009 - 3:10 PMMy parents divorced when I was 6 or 7 they used me in their arguments a lot. They'd always talk crap on each other making the other seem like the bad parent it was very annoying. When I small I got myself into a lot of trouble and had a bad mouth at times. My cousins would pick on me at times and in elementary school, I'd always try to get even with others and say hurtful things when pushed around. Honestly I feel like that outsider looking in with my family it hurts but as time goes the more okay I am with it. I'm the odd one that's gay, into rock, has piercings, and a different dressing style. I've learned home and family is what you make it to be. Overall my childhood was good lots of crappy moments but I wouldn't change it though its real and that's life. I'm competely different to how I was as a little kid and glad lol!.
