Scorpios In a Nut Shell (like that'll ever happen)

topic posted Sun, June 17, 2007 - 5:07 PM by  christina
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Before I get too in depth I want to note my signs. Sun: Gemini, Moon: Scorpio, Rising: Cancer (scorp. decan). (This doesn't say too much, but my chart is most predominate in my chart). p.s. One of my close friends is a triple scoprio too.

Now, to the good part. I have been reading into astrology for the past year and scoprios (being one myself) are the only sign that is amazingly eye-catching. Scorpios will never, ever, for the life of me, be able to be explained in a nut shell but I would like to tell you everything I've learned about them and myself. (with your opinions on them please!!) And before I explain any more... scorpio's are all different, but it's like they're made from the same basis. Plus you can't tell too much without looking at the decan they're under (that might and should change how they approach the world). Also, if ONLY the sun is in scorpio, some of this might not apply becuase that is the weakest position for it, and their motives (which come from the moon) are different. Remember these are only my opinions.

Scorpio's Eyes: Of course, their notorious eyes! This is the only way they communicate how they feel, subconsciously or consciously. They don't like to verbalize how they feel or do so directly because it makes the tooooo uncomfortable. I learned just a few days ago that when a scorpio isn't on the defending side of their personality their eyes are more round and open. When they're suspicious of someone/thing their eyes have more of a cat-eye look to them.

Scorpios and Substance Abuse: Like every other water sign they're prone to substance addiction. Unlike cancers, scorpios (mostly moons) have the capability of "seeing the bottom before they get there." Usually if they don't really like where they're going, they can transform before it's too late, with enough will power.

Scorpio's Language: They talk. They talk a bunch of random stuff. Some hide everything with humor (not necessarily with sarcastic humor either, but sometimes yes) and some are very wise. If you come across a wise scorpio who likes to share knowledge and philosophies, take what they say wisely. Since scorpio's like to figure things out for themselves, they only say part of what they know leaving you to figure out the rest for yourself. And to them if you don't get it, too bad so sad, they probably won't tell you. Everything they say has a million meanings and no meanings at the same time. If you ask them if there was a reason behind why they said it, they'd deny everything. But at the same time they don't just talk up a "bunch of random stuff" (like i said earlier) without a reason behind it.

Scorpios and Sex: Scorpios like their sex, but it doesn't revolve around their life. Since scoprios look for a deeper understanding and feeling in life it makes it pretty important. Also, most scoprios are sensationalists. Any sensationalist would say that they value sex.

Scorpio's Partner: With this I don't mean a physical relationship. I mean their special someone whom they long to get married to. They look for people who can match up to them, someone who has the same depths and understanding of life and feelings that they do. That's because everyone they meet they unconsciously compare them to their own self. Also they love people who can know them indirectly. That is get the jist of what they're feeling/trying to say without them having to show it. This can be very very very hard for people, but some have an affinity for it.

Scorpio's possessiveness: Some see it as unfair and others find complete security in it. They love at such a level no one even knows about. I constantly read articles online about scorpios and it just brushes over them like they could be explained in words. And half the articles don't even talk about how they love or even try to understand that fact. Underneath the hate, they love. They love to hate and hate to love (verablly that is). I'm sitting here trying to find a way to tell you how much they do by using myself as an example but it's to the point where it's so much and so intense I just can't even explain it in words. I don't even know how to explain it at all. They're just a bottle of contradictions under high pressure.

Scorpios and fairness: You're dealing with a black hole here. They don't play by the rules so therefore they don't apply to them. Fairness isn't a part of their language. They can do something and think it's fine, but when it's turned around on them they won't react so happily. Even if you have a good enough reason why you do something, that doesn't matter. The fact that you did it is proof enough. Not fair? Don't like it? Scorpios don't care.

Scoprio's mind: This is a very hard on to explain. Throughout their life, regardless if they say it or not, they feel unloved (even when they are) and misunderstood. Unless they're knowledgeable, the fact that they don't get why others just don't get them is a horrible feeling. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can't simply tell someone why they do something or how they're feeling. And half the time they're reacting subconsciously (I don't know the exact reason why I do half the things I do, It just feels right). Breaking trust with a scorpio is like building an almost unbreakable wall between you. This is where they can either drop you completely (worst case, it's happened to me), or not show you the things they used to. One interesting fact though, scoprios aren't very forgiving, but they seem to forgive cancers the easiest.

Reading a scorpio: If a scoprio doesn't want you to know how they feel, you won't. They don't trust most people (if any for that matter), so not many are shown how/what they really feel. If one trusts you enough, they'd let you understand them and you have practically a life long loyal friend (def. not talking about spouse, just friend). If they like you, they're extremely loyal whether or not they show it. One of the most important things about a scoprio is that, bottom line, they don't want you to know them. They want to be understood, but they don't want anyone to actually know them. When you figure out a scorpio, they change. They are very hard to read, so you must be able to keep up with them! Another thing, they don't like when people assume anything about them, even though that's all anyone can do. Last but not least, if you want a way to break a scorpios trust, giving up on them is the first thing to do. They don't give up, and they definately don't like when one of their friends or someone close to them gives up on trying to understand them. They will hate you and probably hold everything against you. Why? Because they never give up.


If you read this, thank you! I could go back and add much more, but it's already taken me 45 min. and about cutting it.
I definately want to hear your opinions about mine that I've showed you, agreeing or disagreeing. So, any takers?
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christina
Kansas
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  • pretty well done. most of that applies to scorpios i know.

    could you talk more about the part "love to hate and hate to love", say, your experience on that?
    • Thanks.
      The whole love to hate and hate to love is completely unintentional.

      love to hate- Depends ont he decan of the scorp. They're outsiders and they stand by what they believe whether others like it or not. They aren't afraid to fight a battle if someone is against their view, even if they're fighting alone. Love in this text isn't the special bond between two things, it's having the passion to do so.
      hate to love- Most (not all) scorpios don't like being attached/dependant on people. When that happens most just end up leaving them in dissappointment, said or unsaid.

      Sorry for the bad explaination, it's hard to put it into words. If you were/are a scorp. you'd know what I was talking about.
      And again, this applies mostly to moon(movtives)/ascendant placement, because that would be how they think, not necessarily the sun sign (ego).
      • not so sure if this is relevant. When a scorpio love a person, too much, there's a fear of losing that person. When that person makes mistake, scorpio wont forgive. Well, i mean people make mistake, but forgiving is not a nature of scorpio. And usually the one that scorpio once love the most becomes the one he hate the most. That's based on my experience, dont know if that applies to most scorpios though
        • "And usually the one that scorpio once love the most becomes the one he hate the most."
          that definetly applies to me.
          It goes from love to massive hate in a matter of second. BUT, i still love that person.
          for example - I will help if that person is in need, but inside i will be torn between love and hate and bitch about it all the time in my head. Nothing will be said.

          But with time it grows into big indifference. If that person never existed.
  • Unsu...
     
    A lot of it is pretty accurate. I'm Cancer sun with scorpio moon and scorpio rising. The stuff about having a million different meanings and no meanings at all rings particularly true. I'm extremely cynical and can appear quite aloof but can easily win people over...should I choose to do so. Most of the time I'm just content to snuggle up to my specially selected friends. we're like a litter of puppies, all snuggled up close. I'll be sitting on someone's knee while playing with another's hair and resting my head on someone else.
  • ed
    ed
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    They want to be understood, but they don't want anyone to actually know them. When you figure out a scorpio, they change. They are very hard to read, so you must be able to keep up with them!


    Especially the "...they are very hard to read..." part, this implies that scorpio types can "read" people?
    • Unsu...
       
      You had mentioned that a the sign of scorpio is at its weakest when positioned in the sun, so does this mean it's at its strongest when placed in the moon?
      • No, It's strongest when it rises.
        next strongest is the moon
        then the third is the sun
        • I'm not sure what it means that the next strongest is the moon? That the moon displays more Scorpio tendencies than sun in Scorpio? I don't think I outwardly display any Scorpio tendencies but when I'm buy myself I sometimes sure do feel them,, of course intensely.... but that doesn't mean that I portray any of the Scorpio generalities....

          However, with most Scorpio suns,, I can tell right away they're a Scorpio by their mannerisms !
          • a scorpio sun doesn't have the motives of a scorpio since your moon sign is motives
            • personally i think scoprio moons are easier to spot but maybe that's because i'm one
              • ed
                ed
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                Virgos are easy to spot, they are like cats always clean, and well groomed...(most of the time) sometimes the earth signs let themselves go, lol.

                how do u spot scorpio moons?
                • by their motives. Most of the time they approach things the same way as I do. Or when i'm with a group of people and someone does something stupid usually with someone who has their moon in scorpio, we'd make eye contact and the same face to each other (like a 'what the f' face) and have that non-verbal agreement.

                  I can't tell you anymore because I don't like people to know what I know about really reading into other people. I'm sorry. pm would be fine though.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    LOL...wow u really ARE private. and ur sun sign's gemini right? ...i'm a bit more open, and my sun's in taurus. i guess it's the the taurus in me that makes me lay out a lot more things on the table than you or other combos do. but i wasn't always like this...when i was younger i used to hide the real me...i had reached a breaking point a few years back...but then a year later i met someone who was amazing. (lol...it's completely platonic, she's the same sex as me and i'm hetero) she was soooo open with me...and although most people usually are...she told me things that reminded me of myself. the way she thought...the dreams she had woven about her prince charming or the entire blueprint of her future (she loves to plan :P)...her values...beliefs...almost everything was exactly like mine...except she was a more positive and cheerful person. but ONLY around people she knew...and i really liked all that i learned about her, but i still didn't reveal myself UNTIL she told me that she never talked about that sort of stuff with anyone else.

                    and THAT'S when i started to tell her bits and pieces about me...especially about how i work emotionally, how i think, etc. not the totally dark parts...because that was more in the past and only one person (other than myself) who knows that about me and she was another very close friend of mine and...it's also said that scorpios go through rebirths and tend to show different facets of themselves to different people. that's what i guess i've done. these two girls are my closest friends because they know the most about different aspects of me. but the recent one...she's taught me to be more open and trusting...not COMPLETELY because i probably will never tell her the things i've told the other friend before her, but still...maybe there's hope for scorpio moons? at least in the privacy department and maybe when you've got a plain/straightforward sun?
                    • blah...hehe i talk a lot but never make the point i wanted to make....i had reached a breaking point a few years back then a year or so earlier i met that friend and learned to be a bit more open about my emotions and how i work...and i feel SO much better nowadays. now that i have someone who i feel does understand me...most of the time. :P hehehe. so i guess for all the scorpio moons out there who feel lost...just learn to let go a little...but then again, i wouldn't have trusted her if she didn't remind me of me :P so...find another you and trust him/her! :P
                      • I don't think I'm that private. I'll tell people most things, but only things i want them to know (which DEFINATELY excludes how i think). I have met a friend like that about two years ago and we're still really close in the same sense, and i havn't let go. I don't think she (cancer sun, libra moon&1st) understands me fully most of the time and she's even said told me that. Probably can't let go because i'm also part cancer.. but I don't relate everything to astrology so I don't know about that one.
                        • Oh...see I used to be like that but lately I've been telling people how I work...well, just my family and that second friend....because i was getting tired of all the emotional garbage i had to deal with just keeping things to myself. They STILL don't fully understand me because i haven't told them the dark underpinning, but...I feel more relaxed now because they actually make an EFFORT to try and act according to what I've told them about myself...um...when they can get the best reaction from me and such.

                          So that's why I think you're a bit more private than I am...you haven't told anyone anything about how you work/think. Can I ask why that's so? I find that interesting because you do it knowingly....and I did it subconsciously. It just never occurred to me (until recently) that I would be happier if I told people how to act around me :P...instead I always tended to feel that they should just KNOW because *I* knew what THEY were thinking and feeling and I knew how to treat them and deal with their emotions. So yeah...or does it just have to do with the privacy thing...just one other thing that you decide keep hidden?
    • Yeah most scorpio's can because that's just how they roll. Since they are suspicious of everyone they read into how they are to see if they are a threat or not. Also they predict a lot of things and they like to know how everyone around them is feeling (they just don't ask anythign because they can tell by what some may consider unvobvious clues). They use intuition very well and since they [usually] don't second guess theirsevles they end up right.

      For a general example..
      I was at work yesterday with my co-worker who I rarely talk to. It was just me and her and she got off the phone with whom I assumed to be the guy she was having an affair with (her husband moved for work), and since she was talking in spanish I really had no clue. She asked if I had any make-up and before I answered her question I was like "why is someone coming to see you?" and she was like "why?" and I was liek "that's the only reason that someone would ask for it.." I turned out to be right. Maybe that's just good intuition though, who knows?
      • Unsu...
         
        What a cool story. Did you share your makeup w/her? yuk.
        • yeah i did, and i enjoyed every second of it
          • Unsu...
             
            Never heard strongest w/rising sign. Can you give some more info on that.

            You did not sound like your were that friendly w/your co-worker.


            hahahha
            • Haha nah I did it in a friendly way... i hope.


              About the ascendent.. I took this from some website. It's not my own.
              Scorpio is a very powerful sign, and when it is the rising sign it often dominates the rest of the chart. The deep sense of purpose attributed to Scorpio as a sun sign is likely to be even more deep seated when this sign rises, so here is a very intense and driven person. Considerable energy and organisational abilities are combined with leadership powers in what can be a formidable combination. There is often, however, a need for power for it's own sake, and those with Scorpio rising need to take care not to become obsessive or autocratic. With a deep need to know themselves, the person with a Scorpio Ascendant is capable of seeing their own problems and faults clearly and honestly, but this introspection can often lead to confidence struggles. Emotional security is very important with this placing, but may be exacerbated by jealousy and possessiveness, which can be difficult for a partner to handle.

              And another:
              Some say this is the strongest and most difficult ascendant of all: the "razor-edged path" only taken by those who have been given the strength and power to do so. Devil or angel, with Scorpio Rising the personality and the spirit do battle unto death.
              • "Some say this is the strongest and most difficult ascendant of all: the "razor-edged path" only taken by those who have been given the strength and power to do so. Devil or angel, with Scorpio Rising the personality and the spirit do battle unto death."


                This is very true. I am currently experiencing this battle. Leo:Sun, Ascendant: Scorpio, Moon: Scorpio, Neptune: Scorpio.
                • Re: Scorpios In a Nut Shell (like that'll ever happen)

                  Thu, September 20, 2007 - 11:48 PM
                  Some say this is the strongest and most difficult ascendant of all: the "razor-edged path" only taken by those who have been given the strength and power to do so. Devil or angel, with Scorpio Rising the personality and the spirit do battle unto death."


                  This is very true. I am currently experiencing this battle. Leo:Sun, Ascendant: Scorpio, Moon: Scorpio, Neptune: Scorpio

                  WOW THAT IS HARD CORE, you must be committed to some serious spiritual growth in this lifetime with these placements. Kudos.
  • Wow! That is the one of the best Scorpio descriptions I have ever read..............I am a Capricorn, Taurus moon and Scorpio rising. I am always reading up on my scorpio since I can't find anything that ever really goes in depth. I was searching because I have recently become aquainted with a friend of my husband's that is a Taurus with a Scorpio moon and my husband swears there is an attraction, but what he is seeing or feeling is what I call "Scorpio Vibrations." I think this happens when any two people with significant Scorpio in there chart become aquainted.
  • I'm not super knowledgeable about astrology, but why is Scorpio "weaker" in the Sun than in the moon or the ascendant? Does that make me less of a Scorpio? Hearing this rather irks me because I've always been proud of my Scorpio sun, and I consider myself pretty scorpionic even though i don't have any other inner planet in this sign. Whether it's really "weak" or not shouldn't really matter as it is the SUN we are talking about here, and so it should follow that what sign the Sun is in would form an integral part of who we are. I love all the great qualities associated with this sign, and don't like the feeling of having that taken away or be told that its effect is weaker on me just because I'm "only" a Sun Scorpio and not a Sun-moon-venus-mars-jupiter-saturnblahblah Scorpio or whatever.
    • If its weaker in the sun I would say its because Scorpio has alot to do with feelings.
      The sign is motivated and acts greatly on feeling.
      The moon rules feelings, so with a scorpio moon u may therefore get a more heavily influenced scorpio person.

      Thats just my guess though.

      The problem with me is I have a Gemini sun and a bunch of Gemini signs. So I'm complicated. I may be very "scorpio like" one moment and the next I can be outgoing Gemini. I would say I'm more Scorpio like then Gemini. I'm pretty quiet people talk to me about stuff all the time. It often takes me a while to break out of my shell when I'm out. I'm always very careful about what I reveal about myself and to who.

      But because I have strong Scorpio and Gemini in my chart I'm a bit complicated.
    • Rachel,

      Don't get me wrong, i'm not superknowledgeable with astrology either, just someone who thrives on learning and sharing. What i said wasn't supposed to be taken offense to. You may be a scorpio, but if your moon/asc. isn't in scorpio then you probably don't think like one.

      AND ACTUALLY, did you know that in 1930 the Sunday Express started posting horoscopes in the news paper? Now i'm not talking about Sun signs, they were moon sign horoscopes, but the problem was that they had to publish a few tables to let everyone find out what their moon sign was. There wasn't enough room for that so they decided to use Sun signs instead. And history was made.
      • Didn't know that.

        I do know that Moon signs at one point( i think for Vedic astro) are considered more important.
        • john, what's your rising?
          • Gemini Sun, Libra Rising, Scorpio Moon.

            Sometimes it sux having libra rising cauze
            My Scorpio moon makes me take alot of crap from people. On top of that I have to be nice and fair cauze of my Libra rising lol.
            ... I'm complicated lol.
            Its like I have crazy kid gemini, adult scorpio and I guess luckily Libra to balance the 2 :-P lol
            • do u have moon in first house and sun in eight house
              • Planetary positions
                planet sign degree motion
                Sun Gemini 10°17'20 in house 8 direct
                Moon Scorpio 7°53'29 in house 1 direct
                Mercury Gemini 2°06'17 in house 8 direct
                Venus Aries 25°07'26 in house 7 direct
                Mars Gemini 24°13'52 in house 9 direct
                Jupiter Aquarius 16°56'14 in house 4 stationary (R)
                Saturn Scorpio 23°39'11 in house 2 retrograde
                Uranus Sagittarius 16°14'03 in house 3 retrograde
                Neptune Capricorn 2°50'21 in house 3 retrograde
                Pluto Scorpio 2°22'45 in house 1 retrograde
                True Node Taurus 18°07'43 in house 8 direct

                House positions (Placidus)
                Ascendant Libra 14°29'03
                2nd House Scorpio 11°17'55
                3rd House Sagittarius 12°37'50
                Imum Coeli Capricorn 17°15'15
                5th House Aquarius 20°58'57
                6th House Pisces 20°18'56
                Descendant Aries 14°29'03
                8th House Taurus 11°17'55
                9th House Gemini 12°37'50
                Medium Coeli Cancer 17°15'15
                11th House Leo 20°58'57
                12th House Virgo 20°18'56


                ya... how did u know?
              • i guess. Your rising is libra
                • How did u know that though??

                  Or is the only possible combination to have libra rising?
                  Is it good or bad? :-P Lol
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    1st House (Ascendant) – The individual personality
                    Together with the Sun and Moon the ascendant is one of the most important single factors in a horoscope. The sign at the beginning of the first house tells us a lot about someone's personality, temperament and constitution. It typifies our immediate, instinctive reaction and shows how we present ourselves to the world. The planet ruling the ascendant sign is of particular importance for the interpretation.

                    So if i have my scorpio moon in the 1st house that means it makes up quite a bit of my personality?
                    • Actually my horoscope was a bit off.
                      I went off the time my mother thought I was born.
                      However I found my birth certificate and have the exact time.

                      Not a whole lot has changed but here it is:
                      Planetary positions
                      planet sign degree motion
                      Sun Gemini 10°16'25 in house 9 direct
                      Moon Scorpio 7°39'15 in house 2 direct
                      Mercury Gemini 2°04'16 in house 8 direct
                      Venus Aries 25°06'37 in house 7 direct
                      Mars Gemini 24°13'13 in house 9 direct
                      Jupiter Aquarius 16°56'13 in house 5 stationary (R)
                      Saturn Scorpio 23°39'15 in house 2 retrograde
                      Uranus Sagittarius 16°14'06 in house 3 retrograde
                      Neptune Capricorn 2°50'23 in house 3 retrograde
                      Pluto Scorpio 2°22'46 in house 1 retrograde
                      True Node Taurus 18°07'42 in house 8 direct

                      House positions (Placidus)
                      Ascendant Libra 10°01'29
                      2nd House Scorpio 6°29'05
                      3rd House Sagittarius 7°29'59
                      Imum Coeli Capricorn 11°54'02
                      5th House Aquarius 15°42'32
                      6th House Pisces 15°23'15
                      Descendant Aries 10°01'29
                      8th House Taurus 6°29'05
                      9th House Gemini 7°29'59
                      Medium Coeli Cancer 11°54'02
                      11th House Leo 15°42'32
                      12th House Virgo 15°23'15


                      Mods u can delete the last posting
  • Thanks for sharing that was brilliant..

    I have never read this before where you wrote quote " I learned just a few days ago that when a scorpio isn't on the defending side of their personality their eyes are more round and open. When they're suspicious of someone/thing their eyes have more of a cat-eye look to them." but as soon as I read this I could see it in myself (scorp rising) and someone I know with Scorp Moon. Wow that is cool.

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